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Post by Queens of Absolution on Apr 15, 2023 18:04:16 GMT -6
Queens Present: June Retribution Boxing is a sport where bitter rivalries can form. Rivalries that need retribution. The Queens of Absolution are proud to be hosting the first annual "June Retribution" at AT&T Stadium. Of course, you can always challenge a rival without participating but sometimes rivalries need to be taken up a notch! However, in June Retribution we make it a tournament. Challenge your rival. Defeat your rival. But, can you make it to the championship match at the same time? Climb the ladder and see if your stable will be the last one standing.
This is a "first promo" and "early signup" for the stables that need a bit more advanced notice but we'd like to see all stables get involved at this juncture to make it easier for us to organize. We will update this with participants as stables agree on facing their rivals!
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Post by caspian on Apr 15, 2023 18:52:14 GMT -6
Sounds like an interesting concept! Can we get more info though on how the scoring system works?
So 1 girl challenges 4 rivals... How does the tourney system come into play?
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Post by Queens of Absolution on Apr 15, 2023 19:53:46 GMT -6
Sounds like an interesting concept! Can we get more info though on how the scoring system works? So 1 girl challenges 4 rivals... How does the tourney system come into play? Thank you and I am more than happy to answer your question! - Rivals eliminated during a rivalry match are eliminated from the event; the final girls standing enter a single elimination bracket and will fight their way to the championship match. An example: Millie Bobby Brown challenges Chrissy Costanza, and Madelyn Cline. She beats Madelyn but loses to Chrissy, Chrissy will be considered the winner of that rivalry match and move on to the single elimination bracket. If Millie beat both opponents she challenged, she'd be the one moving on.
- One girl can challenge up to four by I would recommend three at most. I just know that some may want to face a third for example. For example, using the above, each girl has already used at least one challenge slot by facing MBB and by extension MBB challenging the other two girls she has used 2.
- It is possible for a girl who lost one rivalry match to still make it to single elimination by "best of 4" - simply win at least two times (why three is recommended) and she'll find her way onto the single elimination bracket
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Post by oddmanout on Apr 15, 2023 19:55:38 GMT -6
Instead of an elimination tournament, why not a round-robin? Two sets of rivals or 1 fighter challenging 3 rivals would be a six fight setup. And that would eliminate the chance of pitting flyweights against welters or vice versa
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Post by Queens of Absolution on Apr 16, 2023 2:28:23 GMT -6
Instead of an elimination tournament, why not a round-robin? Two sets of rivals or 1 fighter challenging 3 rivals would be a six fight setup. And that would eliminate the chance of pitting flyweights against welters or vice versa What you are proposing does make a lot of sense as I imagine it's essentially this (using the example above in Round Robin Format):  If this is correct, I am fine with it and this is what we'll use. The tournament is early enough in its stage of development that it is very easy to pivot. However, I also propose that the winners of the round robin move on to a single elimination bracket so that one stable can be declared 'winner' of the tournament - if everyone is okay with that. Yes, that does run a mismatch risk but it does make things a bit more - interesting. |
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Post by caspian on Apr 16, 2023 2:46:20 GMT -6
Like how this is shaping up. How are we factoring the weight classes though? Will there be brackets and an elimination tourney for each weight class? Or are we mashing together Flys and Bantams, Lights and Welters, for e.g.?
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Post by Queens of Absolution on Apr 16, 2023 3:30:07 GMT -6
Like how this is shaping up. How are we factoring the weight classes though? Will there be brackets and an elimination tourney for each weight class? Or are we mashing together Flys and Bantams, Lights and Welters, for e.g.? Thanks! We are factoring weight class by having a bracket for Flys and Bantam as well as for Lights and Welters. So two brackets in total, completely computer randomized for the initial seeds. |
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Post by caspian on Apr 16, 2023 5:47:11 GMT -6
Okay, so let's say I propose a bucket of:
Emma Watson
Lily Collins
Vanessa Hudgens
The fights will turn out to be:
Emma Watson vs Lily Collins
Emma Watson vs Vanessa Hudgens
Vanessa Hudgens vs Lily Collins
What happens if each girl wins one fight apiece? The score will be effectively drawed, right? Unless you're saying you need a minimum bucket of 4 fighters in each round robin bracket? There's still the possibility of 2 girls tying at 2 wins each, but at least that can then be settled in a follow-up match.
Do note as well that the higher you go in terms of Number of participants within a bucket, the harder it will be to justify all the girls being "rivals". Adding Kristen Stewart to the bucket, for example, would be a bit of a stretch in terms of all four girls being rivals.
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Post by boobytrap1 on Apr 16, 2023 7:01:07 GMT -6
That's a wonderful poster!
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Post by Queens of Absolution on Apr 16, 2023 9:05:21 GMT -6
Okay, so let's say I propose a bucket of: Emma Watson Lily Collins Vanessa Hudgens The fights will turn out to be: Emma Watson vs Lily Collins Emma Watson vs Vanessa Hudgens Vanessa Hudgens vs Lily Collins What happens if each girl wins one fight apiece? The score will be effectively drawed, right? Unless you're saying you need a minimum bucket of 4 fighters in each round robin bracket? There's still the possibility of 2 girls tying at 2 wins each, but at least that can then be settled in a follow-up match. Do note as well that the higher you go in terms of Number of participants within a bucket, the harder it will be to justify all the girls being "rivals". Adding Kristen Stewart to the bucket, for example, would be a bit of a stretch in terms of all four girls being rivals. In this scenario the match results would look like this:  For the assumption of this scenario, I am going to assume Emma Watson is the challenger and Lily Collins and Vanessa Hudgens are the rivals. Emma Watson will win by default to make things less convoluted and move on to the single elimination bracket. The goal of the rivals is to stop the challenger and take their place. In this example, Lily nor Vanessa did that. Essentially, in the event of a draw, the challenger moves on to the single elimination bracket which, in this case, would be Emma. |
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Post by caspian on Apr 16, 2023 21:42:58 GMT -6
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm still a little unclear. If this is the goal, wouldn't it make sense for the challenger to simply challenge 1 rival? Why fight 4 rivals and risk losing more fights, and then risk my spot in the tournament after?
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Post by Queens of Absolution on Apr 17, 2023 1:01:16 GMT -6
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm still a little unclear. If this is the goal, wouldn't it make sense for the challenger to simply challenge 1 rival? Why fight 4 rivals and risk losing more fights, and then risk my spot in the tournament after? The questions are no problem at all; it has actually helped to shape the tournament better than it was! If a challenger challenges one rival and loses, they don't get a spot in the tournament because they lost and they don't have a chance to make up for that loss. As long as the results of the round robin favor the challenger which includes if it is a draw, they will move forward. For two rivals, if the results end up being 1-1 a third match between challenger and rival as randomized by the computer will decide whose moving forward. Feel free to ask more questions! You are helping to shape this into a great event! I will get to the other thread tomorrow but I am excited for the entries you put forward! |
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Post by BenLegend44 on Apr 17, 2023 8:17:51 GMT -6
Harumi Nemoto (challenger) vs Lucy Pinder and Yoko Matsugane (her rivals)
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Post by Lookout! Boxing on Apr 20, 2023 20:07:46 GMT -6
For what it's worth, this is obviously a very ambitious and potentially overwhelming idea for a tournament.
So, after speaking with QoA, here are a few logistical considerations and a few thoughts.
A) First of all, there is going to be a Cougar Tournament in June, so with permission, this will be moved to July Retribution, which should give it more time to put it all together.
B) There are a lot of match-up ideas here, which might be a little much to write up as there are lots of rivalry matches and then a tournament. Round Robin matches can be exhausting, so I'll certainly provide some abbreviated results to help alleviate the writing burden for everybody involved.
C) Here are a potential schedule coming-up for the next few months:
May: Model Mayhem June: Cougar Tournament July: July Retribution August: Break September: Empress of the Body Saddle Tournament
But, of course, that's a whole other discussion.  For now, we'll focus on the logistics of this and be honored to participate in it as well. Should be very fun and it has our full support!
Thank you all!
-Lookout!
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For now, we'll focus on the logistics of this and be honored to participate in it as well. Should be very fun and it has our full support!