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Post by Lookout! Boxing on Aug 11, 2023 10:54:58 GMT -6
Just wanted to touch base as we head into the weekend to discuss an important topic that came out of last week's discussions.
Second, the section on Sanctioning Bodies, we will be officially recognizing several of the unofficial titles and make it clear that those are officially endorsed. Of course, only the four (4) main will be the lineal titles, but the world of the FCBA has expanded to include JMD/JMDD, Ice Hotel, Beach, Jaguar/Cougar titles and we still have one more to go this fall with the Empress of the Body Saddle title.
Third and probably more importantly and of interest to many, are the weight divisions. There are four and currently are laid out like this:
Weight Division Weight Limit
Flyweight 110 Lbs.
Bantamweight 120 Lbs.
Lightweight 130 Lbs.
Welterweight Above 130 Lbs.
That will be done away with shortly and will instead be organized by height. Now, this is just a proposal and nothing is set in stone, of course, but just to get the conversation started:
Weight Division Weight Limit
Flyweight 5'4 and below.
Bantamweight 5'5 - 5'7'
Lightweight 5'8 - 5'9'
Welterweight 5'10 and above.
Now, we recognize that there will be overlap, that not every fighter will slot neatly into these divisions and that there will be shorter fighters, for example in the lightweight division or taller fighters in the bantamweight division, depending on specific situations. However, we want to have some basic organization in the weight divisions I'm sure people will have some different and in all likelihood, better ideas. I'm totally open. Thank you all for your feedback and suggestions!
Happy Friday!!!
-Lookout! Boxing
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Post by Vassago on Aug 11, 2023 13:29:50 GMT -6
I don't think there's a need to overthink the room and moreover there is NO way Nicki Minaj at 5'4" would be a flyweight or bantamweight. On the other hand slender 5'7" types could always be in flyweight range (Keira Knightley being a prime example).
Also some 5'8" or 5'9" women are easily be welterweights. Charlize Theron who is 5'9 1/2" would be ineligible to compete in welterweight? Brooklyn Decker is 5'9" and now she would be banned from doing welterweight too? Hell, the last two welter champions (Kostek and Lively) are below 5'10". The list goes on and on. AMANDA RIGHETTI is 5'8" for crying out loud. She's not tall enough for welterweights now?
This is a hard NO from me to mess around with the welterweights. It's been years since that division was blasted for lack of names and now Theron, Righetti, Regan, Decker, Lively, Kostek would have to drop to lightweights because of height limit? That is INSANE. Who benefits from this and why? This is easily one of the WORST decisions ever made in FCBA if all welters will have to be at least 5'10" or taller.
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Post by Celebrity Wrestling Federation on Aug 11, 2023 14:14:38 GMT -6
First off, I LOVE that the section on Sanctioning Bodies will officially recognize the secondary Titles. Having worked so hard on the Cougar/Jaguar Divisions (with help from many others of course) that feels really cool  Second, I really don’t care either way and people who have been here longer than I should make the final call - BUT in my opinion reorganizing every single weight class by height exclusively looks like an unfathomable amount of work. I personally don’t really see any problem whatsoever with the way things are now. There will always be mis-classified fighters no matter what metric we use, that’s why there’s a need for common sense on a case-by-case basis. I would vote to leave everything how it is, but just be discerning and use some more common sense on new fighters. Maybe from now on we just look more closely at height as opposed to relying solely on weight? No need in my opinion to touch a single existing fighter, just be a little more nuanced on new girls. Just my two pennies! |
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Post by The Grand Wizard on Aug 11, 2023 14:53:04 GMT -6
I’m going to agree that I don’t think we need to mess with the weight classes. Yes. You may have the odd misclassified fighter, but, Mr. V, in particular, is right. We’re killing flies with sledgehammers if we start messing with this. Let’s all just agree to try to properly classify our fighters and, if there is a major disagreement (and I recall, like, TWO of these in 13 years) we can let the commissioner decide.
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Post by Queens of Absolution on Aug 11, 2023 15:06:09 GMT -6
I don't think there's a need to overthink the room and moreover there is NO way Nicki Minaj at 5'4" would be a flyweight or bantamweight. On the other hand slender 5'7" types could always be in flyweight range (Keira Knightley being a prime example). Also some 5'8" or 5'9" women are easily be welterweights. Charlize Theron who is 5'9 1/2" would be ineligible to compete in welterweight? Brooklyn Decker is 5'9" and now she would be banned from doing welterweight too? Hell, the last two welter champions (Kostek and Lively) are below 5'10". The list goes on and on. AMANDA RIGHETTI is 5'8" for crying out loud. She's not tall enough for welterweights now? This is a hard NO from me to mess around with the welterweights. It's been years since that division was blasted for lack of names and now Theron, Righetti, Regan, Decker, Lively, Kostek would have to drop to lightweights because of height limit? That is INSANE. Who benefits from this and why? This is easily one of the WORST decisions ever made in FCBA if all welters will have to be at least 5'10" or taller. I am torn by this because of the reception of Tiera Skovbye when she first joined. Remember, she's 5'10" but she's listed at 110 lbs. However, now some sources which are far less reliable list her in the Welterweight class. Celebrity Wrestling Federation made a huge, and I mean huge, fuss over the reality stating that we were "intentionally giving Tiera an advantage" when we were just following the numbers. Naturally, we eventually just scratched her "official" weight and used her "official" height and a bit of common sense to determine her weight class which is of course: welterweight. I don't support a singular stat to determine whether you are a welterweight or not - we only did it as an appeasement and won't do it again as more information about Tiera is available. It should be Height + Weight + Commonsense = Weightclass. For example, Keira Knightley is 5'7", slender, with toned abs and she'd be a flyweight. Natasha Calis is 5'8" with a built body, fit abs, and would be a lightweight. I can go on about the intricacies as there is no simplicity here. |
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Post by Lookout! Boxing on Aug 11, 2023 15:11:58 GMT -6
I don't think there's a need to overthink the room and moreover there is NO way Nicki Minaj at 5'4" would be a flyweight or bantamweight. On the other hand slender 5'7" types could always be in flyweight range (Keira Knightley being a prime example). Also some 5'8" or 5'9" women are easily be welterweights. Charlize Theron who is 5'9 1/2" would be ineligible to compete in welterweight? Brooklyn Decker is 5'9" and now she would be banned from doing welterweight too? Hell, the last two welter champions (Kostek and Lively) are below 5'10". The list goes on and on. AMANDA RIGHETTI is 5'8" for crying out loud. She's not tall enough for welterweights now? This is a hard NO from me to mess around with the welterweights. It's been years since that division was blasted for lack of names and now Theron, Righetti, Regan, Decker, Lively, Kostek would have to drop to lightweights because of height limit? That is INSANE. Who benefits from this and why? This is easily one of the WORST decisions ever made in FCBA if all welters will have to be at least 5'10" or taller. I can see that people will have just as strong reactions to this as they typically do and I apologize if I contributed to this in any way. Let me make a few things clear to clarify
A) Nobody is going to be forced to reassign their fighters into new weight classes.
B) We are not going to work to weaken the welterweight division - that WOULD be insane.
C) While I recognize that the board doesn't get to see everything behind the scenes, I frequently field e-mails on where fighters should be placed. That's not a complaint- I'm happy to do so and think it's important. I think I do a pretty good job with it too.
D) My point is that I'm going to be relying on height and not weight. This is simply to provide new managers or anybody looking to add new fighters with some helpful guidelines on the Wiki. If people don't have any suggestions, then I'll put these up with obvious caveats that these are not hard and fast rules for any fighter. Where any fighter is placed can always be a discussion, but there will be something on the Wiki.
E) Thank you!
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Post by Vassago on Aug 11, 2023 15:17:39 GMT -6
If all this fixing something that isn't broken is only done because of ONE fighter (Tiera Skovbye) then I'm sorry, it's absolutely not worth the squeeze. Just fit the one or two odd pieces upon some agreement and don't kill off everyone else - especially the welters.
The Grand Wizard could join in on the agreement committee if neccessary IMO.
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Post by Queens of Absolution on Aug 11, 2023 15:24:57 GMT -6
If all this fixing something that isn't broken is only done because of ONE fighter (Tiera Skovbye) then I'm sorry, it's absolutely not worth the squeeze. Just fit the one or two odd pieces upon some agreement and don't kill off everyone else - especially the welters. The Grand Wizard could join in on the agreement committee if neccessary IMO. I would like to make note right now that Tiera Skovbye has nothing to do with these changes as far as I am aware. I was using Tiera as an example of someone who caused quite a stir. |
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Post by Lookout! Boxing on Aug 11, 2023 16:00:45 GMT -6
If all this fixing something that isn't broken is only done because of ONE fighter (Tiera Skovbye) then I'm sorry, it's absolutely not worth the squeeze. Just fit the one or two odd pieces upon some agreement and don't kill off everyone else - especially the welters. The Grand Wizard could join in on the agreement committee if neccessary IMO. This is not due to any single fighter at all. The weight limits have been on the Wiki for a LONG time. Last week, everybody was VERY clear that weights were an unreliable method and that height would be better. I'm not asking for any committee, e-mail group or anything else. Just for some simple guidelines to help out new managers and fighters. The Wiki is going to be changed - it's a matter of whether anybody has any feedback on how the weights should be presented. If the answer is no, then I'll figure it out.
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Post by Dave Knowles on Aug 11, 2023 16:11:34 GMT -6
I’m seeing most sites have Tiera at 132 lb, not that this is all about her. I think this is an interesting debate and one I’ve mulled over for a while. But I think the weights published on the internet are pretty unreliable and heights are much easier to assess so I’m leaning towards a change to the categories although there will always be exceptions
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Post by Vassago on Aug 11, 2023 16:15:28 GMT -6
Well, boxing as well as almost every combat sport is decided on weight classes and I don't think FCBA weight classes are unreliable so I'm unsure how "everybody" thinks that. But it's alright, common sense has long deserted certain areas of life  If Brooklyn Decker or Cassidy Freeman will be forced into retirement due to being too small for welterweight then I will fall in line with the rebranding. Because they are not going down to lightweight at this stage anymore. |
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Post by Celebrity Wrestling Federation on Aug 11, 2023 16:31:49 GMT -6
I am torn by this because of the reception of Tiera Skovbye when she first joined. Remember, she's 5'10" but she's listed at 110 lbs. However, now some sources which are far less reliable list her in the Welterweight class. Celebrity Wrestling Federation made a huge, and I mean huge, fuss over the reality stating that we were "intentionally giving Tiera an advantage" when we were just following the numbers. Can't stop bringing me up out of nowhere, huh. The whole board can see you lying right here, dude. Enjoy this thread, where I was the only person who defended you and Tiera Any complaints I made were private and made to you only, which you have now aired publicly for no reason whatsoever. |
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Post by The Grand Wizard OOC on Aug 11, 2023 16:42:27 GMT -6
I don't think there's a need to overthink the room and moreover there is NO way Nicki Minaj at 5'4" would be a flyweight or bantamweight. On the other hand slender 5'7" types could always be in flyweight range (Keira Knightley being a prime example). Also some 5'8" or 5'9" women are easily be welterweights. Charlize Theron who is 5'9 1/2" would be ineligible to compete in welterweight? Brooklyn Decker is 5'9" and now she would be banned from doing welterweight too? Hell, the last two welter champions (Kostek and Lively) are below 5'10". The list goes on and on. AMANDA RIGHETTI is 5'8" for crying out loud. She's not tall enough for welterweights now? This is a hard NO from me to mess around with the welterweights. It's been years since that division was blasted for lack of names and now Theron, Righetti, Regan, Decker, Lively, Kostek would have to drop to lightweights because of height limit? That is INSANE. Who benefits from this and why? This is easily one of the WORST decisions ever made in FCBA if all welters will have to be at least 5'10" or taller. I can see that people will have just as strong reactions to this as they typically do and I apologize if I contributed to this in any way. Let me make a few things clear to clarify
A) Nobody is going to be forced to reassign their fighters into new weight classes.
B) We are not going to work to weaken the welterweight division - that WOULD be insane.
C) While I recognize that the board doesn't get to see everything behind the scenes, I frequently field e-mails on where fighters should be placed. That's not a complaint- I'm happy to do so and think it's important. I think I do a pretty good job with it too.
D) My point is that I'm going to be relying on height and not weight. This is simply to provide new managers or anybody looking to add new fighters with some helpful guidelines on the Wiki. If people don't have any suggestions, then I'll put these up with obvious caveats that these are not hard and fast rules for any fighter. Where any fighter is placed can always be a discussion, but there will be something on the Wiki.
E) Thank you!
OK. Now THAT makes perfect sense! I think, perhaps, some of us got the wrong impression here. (I certainly did, and that's my fault, no one else's.) Relying, in general, on height, considering how difficult it is to get reliable weights on public websites, isn't a bad idea...since we've all got common sense and we can tell that, say, Kat Dennings, 5'4" is definitely NOT a flyweight and that Kristen Stewart, 5'6" absolutely IS. So, if all we're talking about here are general guidelines. Yes. It makes perfect sense. (And, PS, I think you do a pretty good job determining weight classes, too, because, again, I haven't seen a lot of fighters misclassified, nor have I seen a lot of fighters subject to complaints regarding weight classes.) Oh, and I love the idea of sanctioning bodies recognizing the minor titles. All in all, this looks, as usual, like a good idea from the Commissioner...or, in this case, TWO good ideas. |
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Post by Celebrity Wrestling Federation on Aug 11, 2023 17:05:46 GMT -6
Am I the only one who doesn't see why this is getting so personal and everyone is so riled up? Threatening to retire fighters, calling out managers about measurables, this and that?
I absolutely see where Lookout is coming from. He basically had half the managers jump down his throat publicly and privately and tell him (the literal commissioner) that he couldn't reclassify two of his borderline fighters. AND FOR EXACT OPPOSITE REASONS. Kylie Jenner (5'6) wasn't allowed to move DOWN to Bantam because of her weight being in the 130 ballpark. In the same breath, people said that Hailee Steinfeld (5'6) couldn't move UP to Light because of her weight, which I saw almost universally as 132. They're literally the exact same height and weight, but people were trying to control where Lookout could put them. Lol this is insane. Bantams fight Lights, Lights fight Welters, who gives a sh*t?!
Start with height. If they're average in size, slap them right in whatever division. If you've got an extreme case (Knightley, Graham, Dennings, whatever) then look to weight with an iota of common sense applied. I could classify any fighter in 30 seconds, we don't need all this committee and voting and bitching at each other. If you care that much where someone else's fighter is classified, then simply don't fight them? If they're on the border of two classes, call them both. Or whatever the manager prefers. Really not that hard guys. They're going to be fighting up and down regardless, why do we have to argue over which exact classification someone is in. Call Kylie Jenner Bantam/Light and move the heck on. This is such time and energy pointlessly wasted. Not to mention Lookout's time fielding all this absolute junk.
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Post by LMW on Aug 11, 2023 17:09:33 GMT -6
Since it is more about providing guidelines than making clear cut rules, what if we include both the current weight and the proposed height stats in the wiki? Like an "and/or" situation with a line saying that managers should consider these guidelines and take height/weight/build and use their common sense to make their decisions and ask for the approval of the commissioner accordingly.
I think it is made clear here that it won't be forced on current fighters, so I don't think anyone will have to retire or switch around, but I understand Vassago's concern that it might prevent future Therons, Righettis, and Deckers if future managers think that these height guidelines are clear cut rules. So, making it clear that these are just guidelines would be important for the wiki page as well. Otherwise, I agree that it is easier to find reliable height information than weight information. Also, it is a minor problem since there are only a few managed wrestlers, athletes, fitness models, etc. but they generally end up being undersized in their weight classes as their real life weight is closer to what they would weigh if they were actually boxing, unlike other celebrities, so the new guidelines could help with that too.
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Post by Lookout! Boxing on Aug 11, 2023 18:49:56 GMT -6
Since it is more about providing guidelines than making clear cut rules, what if we include both the current weight and the proposed height stats in the wiki? Like an "and/or" situation with a line saying that managers should consider these guidelines and take height/weight/build and use their common sense to make their decisions and ask for the approval of the commissioner accordingly. I think it is made clear here that it won't be forced on current fighters, so I don't think anyone will have to retire or switch around, but I understand Vassago's concern that it might prevent future Therons, Righettis, and Deckers if future managers think that these height guidelines are clear cut rules. So, making it clear that these are just guidelines would be important for the wiki page as well. Otherwise, I agree that it is easier to find reliable height information than weight information. Also, it is a minor problem since there are only a few managed wrestlers, athletes, fitness models, etc. but they generally end up being undersized in their weight classes as their real life weight is closer to what they would weigh if they were actually boxing, unlike other celebrities, so the new guidelines could help with that too. Unless I hear a better suggestion, this is likely what we'll go with!
Again, I apologize for any miscommunication as I didn't anticipate the level of concerns that people would have and thought we were largely on the same page after last week. Knowley said it best there where I thought were all in agreement on "But I think the weights published on the internet are pretty unreliable and heights are much easier to assess so I’m leaning towards a change to the categories although there will always be exceptions ." If we add both heights and weight, this will largely be the direction. Of course, no matter what, we'll stress that these are just guidelines and of course, each fighter can be discussed to make sure they are in the appropriate weight class and this is all designed simply to help out new managers/fighters. We certainly don't want to discourage the new wave of fighters at all and want to make things easier!
However, we are not going to require any existing fighters to be reclassified and want to stress that again. Now, if anybody has any suggestions as to whether those approximate heights look approximate for the various weight classes, whether the weights appear appropriate or any other feedback, we'll remain open. Thank you all for this and really appreciate the passionate discussion!
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Post by girlsfriday on Aug 11, 2023 19:56:20 GMT -6
I think most things have been said but all I'd say is that I hope people won't be afraid to move fighters up divisions and even maybe down in future or have catchweight fights. At the end of the day this is meant to be fun and I hope no one will be scared of having people yelling or calling them out over changing divisions for a fighter. While the days of a Charlize Theron type fighter winning in several weight divisions (I mean three or even all four divisions) is probably over. It's still fun to see say a bantamweight who has dominated try for the lightweight title as an example. So hopefully this will all calm down. I am going back to sleep hopefully have a fun weekend everyone and stay safe. |
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Post by RotFreiherr on Aug 11, 2023 20:10:27 GMT -6
I'm late to the party, haven't paid much attention to this,and my opinion probably doesn't hold so much weight, but here's what I think:
Let fighters challenge up or down as they wish. The other fighter can always say no unless they're unmanaged, but it's not like farming wins off unmanaged fighters gets you very far. As for categorization, I dunno since a lot of sources online aren't so reliable, but I don't think it really matters so much in the grand scope of things since the other fighter can always say no. It's just a matter of assigning a 'home turf' in my eyes.
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Post by Queens of Absolution on Aug 11, 2023 20:19:18 GMT -6
Since it is more about providing guidelines than making clear cut rules, what if we include both the current weight and the proposed height stats in the wiki? Like an "and/or" situation with a line saying that managers should consider these guidelines and take height/weight/build and use their common sense to make their decisions and ask for the approval of the commissioner accordingly. I think it is made clear here that it won't be forced on current fighters, so I don't think anyone will have to retire or switch around, but I understand Vassago's concern that it might prevent future Therons, Righettis, and Deckers if future managers think that these height guidelines are clear cut rules. So, making it clear that these are just guidelines would be important for the wiki page as well. Otherwise, I agree that it is easier to find reliable height information than weight information. Also, it is a minor problem since there are only a few managed wrestlers, athletes, fitness models, etc. but they generally end up being undersized in their weight classes as their real life weight is closer to what they would weigh if they were actually boxing, unlike other celebrities, so the new guidelines could help with that too. Unless I hear a better suggestion, this is likely what we'll go with!
Again, I apologize for any miscommunication as I didn't anticipate the level of concerns that people would have and thought we were largely on the same page after last week. Knowley said it best there where I thought were all in agreement on "But I think the weights published on the internet are pretty unreliable and heights are much easier to assess so I’m leaning towards a change to the categories although there will always be exceptions ." If we add both heights and weight, this will largely be the direction. Of course, no matter what, we'll stress that these are just guidelines and of course, each fighter can be discussed to make sure they are in the appropriate weight class and this is all designed simply to help out new managers/fighters. We certainly don't want to discourage the new wave of fighters at all and want to make things easier!
However, we are not going to require any existing fighters to be reclassified and want to stress that again. Now, if anybody has any suggestions as to whether those approximate heights look approximate for the various weight classes, whether the weights appear appropriate or any other feedback, we'll remain open. Thank you all for this and really appreciate the passionate discussion!
I missed the discussion from last week but I have caught up now and think I am on the same page in that these are to be 'guidelines.' In that case, they have my support as well as height is the first thing I consider than I adjust for weight assuming their is a reliable source of weight information for the person our there. More often then not, unless she's a model or willingly put the information up, there isn't that can't be secondarily publicly verified. I believe these guidelines with common sense will serve to help better classify fighters in the future. Furthermore, we shouldn't be pushing back between where someone wants to place a fighter so long as its reasonable. We should be supporting and lifting each other up. I believe the general guidelines for height and weight make common sense and look forward to their use in the future. Obviously, there will be exceptions such as fitness models but this is one thing that I am now on the same page about. |
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 12, 2023 5:04:22 GMT -6
I'm all for adding height as a factor in determining a fighter's division. The problem is I don't think this will fall neatly into the sort of two-inch groups you have laid out right now. I think we should use more of a height r a n g e:
For welters, I guess 5'8'' is a good place to start. I can't remember a top welter who was only 5'7'' and there are top fighters who go way past the six foot mark, so you can't be too small.
For lights, it's possible to start a little smaller, possibly at 5'6''. The range can go all the way up to a 5'10'', 5'11'' girl, but six-footers should probably be expected to stay at welter.
For bantams, I know 5'4'' sounds like a good standard, but look at a Demi Rose who's just 5'2'' and who can make a great fight against a 5'6'' Kira Kosarin, so there's another range for you.
A sturdy fly can go up to 5'4'' or 5'5'', too.
Adding (wider) ranges into these guidelines will keep managers and match-making flexible. I wouldn't want a manager refrain from putting a girl at welter because she's not in the 5'10''+ "limit" you mentioned!
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Post by Lookout! Boxing on Aug 12, 2023 9:40:02 GMT -6
I'm all for adding height as a factor in determining a fighter's division. The problem is I don't think this will fall neatly into the sort of two-inch groups you have laid out right now. I think we should use more of a height r a n g e: For welters, I guess 5'8'' is a good place to start. I can't remember a top welter who was only 5'7'' and there are top fighters who go way past the six foot mark, so you can't be too small. For lights, it's possible to start a little smaller, possibly at 5'6''. The range can go all the way up to a 5'10'', 5'11'' girl, but six-footers should probably be expected to stay at welter. For bantams, I know 5'4'' sounds like a good standard, but look at a Demi Rose who's just 5'2'' and who can make a great fight against a 5'6'' Kira Kosarin, so there's another range for you. A sturdy fly can go up to 5'4'' or 5'5'', too. Adding (wider) ranges into these guidelines will keep managers and match-making flexible. I wouldn't want a manager refrain from putting a girl at welter because she's not in the 5'10''+ "limit" you mentioned! Good morning - I'm glad that everybody appears to be, mostly, on the same page for now. That page needed to be sorely updated as the last time it had been touched was 14 years and three (3) months ago by a manager who is unfortunately no longer with the FCBA. It still mentioned three (3) sanctioning bodies that are no longer present as now everything is under the same umbrella of the FCBA. It also did not include many of the recently added titles and those are all now officially recognized.
In terms of the weights, I have changed the page to update with both height and weight. I've changed the word limit to recommendations in the table, stressed repeatedly that these are just guidelines, that we will work to find a competitive situation for every new fighter, that catchweight matches still remain available and that there is a range. There will always be exceptions based on body type/weight and height, as well as other potential factors. Please feel free to take a look at the page - Sanctioning Bodies and Weight Divisions and if you have any other feedback, suggestions or clarifications I should add, I'll be open. All of the feedback so far has made things much better. Happy Saturday and I hope you're all having a great weekend!! |
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Post by The Dollhouse on Aug 13, 2023 0:07:47 GMT -6
I missed all the action, but I support the change. The only thing I'd say is that I think Fly should be 5'5 and below, Bantam 5'4 - 5'8, Light 5'7 - 5'9, Welther 5'9 + with obviously taking "build" into account rather than exact weights. But that's just minor quibble about the exact numbers |
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Post by caspian on Aug 13, 2023 0:45:55 GMT -6
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Post by Queens of Absolution on Aug 13, 2023 9:30:52 GMT -6
Building on what Caspian said, if you need AI assistance, another good one is Cohere which is more up-to-date in training. Now it does appear to use this scale based on when I asked it to explain where it would classify Natasha Calis: We obviously don't use that scale and mindfulness would come in as needed to use our scale that ends with welterweight at 130+. Based on our scale, it would classify Natasha Calis as a Lightweight (with honest room to move up to welter): I guess it's a good thing I have her compete in both Lightweight and Welterweight divisions! But of course, like with all AI, accuracy is not 100%. However, Cohere is the backend of a lot of AI systems so if it's accessible to you it's another tool I'd put in my toolbox. |
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If Brooklyn Decker or Cassidy Freeman will be forced into retirement due to being too small for welterweight then I will fall in line with the rebranding. Because they are not going down to lightweight at this stage anymore.
