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Post by RotFreiherr on Jun 17, 2021 3:41:59 GMT -6
There are two types of celebrities: real people that have a large following, or fictional characters that have many fans. Since the former is already firmly established in the FCBA and BBU, I figure that we could have some matches for the latter too. It would be in the vein of Into the Celebrity-Verse. This guy is doing something similar, albeit with popularity instead of fighting(his profile is NSFW):https://twitter.com/measurementsftw?lang=en Essentially, I'm going to write some unofficial bouts for females who have a large following in our world but are not actual people. Girls like Tifa Lockhart and Lara Croft, or the VTubers that have taken the Internet by storm. I am also going to take some suggestions. Below is a Google Form where you can submit a suggestion for a fictional fighter and her opponent, as well as if you prefer boxing, wrestling, or something else. forms.gle/9vmFXifLEeMoWNWH8 Please make suggestions in the form of "Name(Franchise)". For example, if you want Pyra from Xenoblade Chronicles to fight Samus from Metroid, enter "Pyra(Xenoblade Chronicles)" under Fighter Suggestion and "Samus Aran(Metroid)" under Opponent. Don't type the quotation marks that I typed here in the form. Names not submitted under this format will be ignored. Also, please enter the full name whenever you can(i.e. don't put Samus when you can put Samus Aran). 2v2 or XvY(X and Y being variables ranging from 1 to 4) matches are allowed. Separate the names with commas. Example: Kallen Kozuki from Code Geass vs Pyra and Mythra from Xenoblade Chronicles would be "Kallen Kozuki(Code Geass)" under Fighter Suggestion or Opponent, and "Pyra(Xenoblade Chronicles), Mythra(Xenoblade Chronicles)" under the other. For any matches that are not 1v1, make it clear under the "Other" option for Match Style how many people there are on each side(just so I can be sure). A three on two match would be "3v2 *insert match style here*". You can make a suggestion for a gimmick match, but they are wrestling only. Make it clear what type of gimmick match you want with the "Other" option for Match Type. Multi-women boxing matches will be like WWE's Survivor Series. Again, suggestions that do not follow this convention are discarded. I'll gradually get the matches out on the boards. Hopefully I'll be able to write them all but no promises. Don't hesitate to make a comment or message me if anything is unclear.
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Post by The Dollhouse on Jun 17, 2021 7:28:31 GMT -6
Hmmm...Did you OK this with Lookout? No offense but I really don't think this kinda thing belongs on the FCBA boards. Fictional cartoon/3d characters are an entirely different thing than human celebrities.
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Post by RotFreiherr on Jun 17, 2021 18:59:57 GMT -6
Wasn't there a fight between two Harry Potter characters earlier this year though? fcbahistory.pbworks.com/1-January-2021-CelebVerse-Hermione-vs-GinnyIt was posted by Lookout too (albeit written by someone else), and also between two fictional characters. Wouldn't what I'm proposing fall under the same umbrella? If it ultimately ends up being not OK, then I won't post it here.
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Post by caspian on Jun 17, 2021 21:08:08 GMT -6
Wasn't there a fight between two Harry Potter characters earlier this year though? fcbahistory.pbworks.com/1-January-2021-CelebVerse-Hermione-vs-GinnyIt was posted by Lookout too (albeit written by someone else), and also between two fictional characters. Wouldn't what I'm proposing fall under the same umbrella? If it ultimately ends up being not OK, then I won't post it here. Yes, but they're not quite the same. Hermione vs Ginny is based off two fictional characters with real-life counterparts (i.e. celebrity actresses), whereas what you're suggesting here is having two entirely fictional characters fight, aka like in Death Battle. I'll let Lookout be the final decision-maker here, but again, imo, this is not a rabbit hole we should be delving into. There are already other boards for these kinds of stories. Edit: My suggestion (if we want to promote these unofficial stories going forward) is to delineate the boards between canon (official) and non-canon (unofficial) fights. Right now, everything is getting lumped into the same category of FCBA: After Dark, which can be misleading since not all the stories posted here are within the same universe.
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Post by RotFreiherr on Jun 17, 2021 23:55:06 GMT -6
Isn't there a "Into the Celebrity Verse" section that's specifically for this sort of thing? If it ends up being not OK, do you mind pointing me to those other boards you mentioned?
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Post by The Dollhouse on Jun 18, 2021 6:50:45 GMT -6
'Into the Celebrity Verse' is specifically for characters played by human celebrities, which is still 'close enough' to the real celebrity....that is not the same as fictional cartoon characters that have nothing to do with any human celebrity.
Angelina Jolie's version of Lara Croft is fine, but a cartoon character that has no human celebrity linked to it is a lot different.
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Post by RotFreiherr on Jun 18, 2021 10:27:50 GMT -6
So if I limit the fights to those who have been played by a celeb in some capacity, it's ok?
Basically alternate personalities for real life celebrities. Is that correct?
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Post by The Dollhouse on Jun 18, 2021 10:30:37 GMT -6
So if I limit the fights to those who have been played by a celeb in some capacity, it's ok? Basically alternate personalities for real life celebrities. Is that correct? Yup....again the only one who has the final say on what is allowed or not is Lookout, so check with him, but that's how I understand it.
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Post by Lookout! Boxing on Jun 19, 2021 7:10:46 GMT -6
So if I limit the fights to those who have been played by a celeb in some capacity, it's ok? Basically alternate personalities for real life celebrities. Is that correct? That sounds good to me. So, for example, if you want to do something like Mary Jane Watson versus Gwen Stacy, it would be written up like Mary Jane Watson (Kirsten Dunst) versus Gwen Stacy (Emma Stone). When you're writing, it would be writing the characters as themselves and not the actresses, but it does give the audience a better idea of how to picture the fight.
Now, if you want to use fictional characters that have not been necessarily played on the big or small screen before, find an actress that looks similar to them as a stand-in. I think there are plenty of fictional characters that have been portrayed by celebrities that would lend themselves well to a rivalry, so you should have no shortage of matches to add to the Celebrity-Verse. But, if you want to have something like Samus Aran versus Tifa Lockhart or Miranda Lawson versus Lara Croft or something else along those lines, then find a celebrity that can portray the character for the purposes of the fight, alright?
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Post by caspian on Jun 19, 2021 22:03:14 GMT -6
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Post by RotFreiherr on Jun 22, 2021 0:42:51 GMT -6
Lookout said it's ok provided that I get a celeb to stand in. I did get a few suggestions from the form, so here's a Google Form for the top 16. forms.gle/j2WmEeVRAnMQCezu6
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Post by Ginny on Jun 22, 2021 9:53:51 GMT -6
I think I'd enjoy reading most/several of these, but unless the fight is written as it's the RL actress playing a character (with the actresses own foibles, faults, personality and weaknesses instead of the characters') I'm pretty sure it would, for me, soon grow tiresome. Of course, that's just MY opinion, so except for taking it as one persons view it shouldn't deter anyone from writing/posting.
Perhaps if there were a "standard method of resolution" for the contests (votes, dice rolls, based on/replicating real life* or movie outcomes) then I'd at least look at it as more a way of re-imagining the contest instead of just writing a story based on the writers fantasy.
*real life outcome means that the fight winner is decided by an event outside the writers control (even one chosen afterward to achieve the desired winner). I've seen stories that chose a winner based on two tennis players match result, for example, but it could be anything from a football or basketball match between the two fighters home towns, a race between them, or anything where the result indicated a relative severity/closeness of outcome.
(or maybe I'm overthinking this?)
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Post by caspian on Jun 22, 2021 10:17:03 GMT -6
the fight is written as it's the RL actress playing a character (with the actresses own foibles, faults, personality and weaknesses instead of the characters') Agree with this. In fact, this has been done numerous times in the past, with Lookout generating the results: Lori vs Melina from Total Recall (Kate Beckinsale vs Jessica Biel), Summer Quinn vs C. J. Parker in Baywatch (Alexandra Daddario vs Kelly Rohrbach), and hell, I'm writing one such match right now for the June PPV: Wonder Woman vs Harley Quinn (Gal Gadot vs Margot Robbie).
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Post by RotFreiherr on Jun 22, 2021 18:07:22 GMT -6
I did put it up to a vote; the Google Form I posted earlier is letting voters decide who advances to the top 8, and I'll do the same all the way until we have a winner.
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Post by caspian on Jun 22, 2021 18:37:08 GMT -6
I did put it up to a vote; the Google Form I posted earlier is letting voters decide who advances to the top 8, and I'll do the same all the way until we have a winner. Again, if you generate results this way, the fights will be considered unofficial. But that's your choice.
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Post by RotFreiherr on Jun 22, 2021 20:29:14 GMT -6
I know. I fully intended them to be that way. If I ever do one that's "official", I 'll contact Lookout.
Also, please, fill out the form(the second one) if you haven't already.
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